ـ من الجيل الخامس فى شجرة العائله و كان تاجر غلال بابوقـرقاص محافـظه المنيا مدون بالشجره إنه مواليد 1800
ولكن عند مقارنه تارخ ميلاد اخيه ألأكبر بأختين وتاريخ ميلاد ابنه الثالث اندراوس نجد ان تاريخ ميلاده حوالي 1810
وعاش
حتي 1882
: ـ أبناؤه هـم
He is from the fifth generation in the family tree, he was a wholesaler of crops in Abo Korkas - El Menia. It is written in the family tree that he was born in 1800, but by comparing his birthday by his siblings' and his third third son's birthday we concluded that his birthday is around 1810 and lived till 1882
His Cheldren are :